Priests’ conference in Rome to feature Tridentine liturgies

ROME — Top officials from the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Sacraments will be principal celebrants at Tridentine liturgies during a conference in Rome this week.  The Tridentine rite, in use before the reforms of the Second Vatican Council,  is also called the extraordinary form of the liturgy.

U.S. Archbishop J. Augustine Di Noia,  secretary of the Vatican congregation,  will celebrate solemn pontifical vespers and benediction in the extraordinary form at the Church of St. Stephen of the Abyssinians, located  inside the Vatican walls, Jan. 6.

On Jan. 7, Cardinal Antonio Canizares Llovera, prefect of the worship congregation, will celebrate a solemn pontifical Mass in the extraordinary form at the Basilica of St. John Lateran.

The conference is being co-sponsored by the U.S.-based Confraternity of Catholic Clergy and the Australian Confraternity of Catholic Clergy to mark the Year for Priests.

Archbishop Raymond Burke,  prefect of the Apostolic Signature, the church’s highest court, will be the main celebrant at the concluding liturgy of the conference Jan. 8. He will celebrate a solemn pontifical Mass in the ordinary — or new — form in St. Peter’s Basilica.

Archbishop Burke  celebrated a Mass in the extraordinary form in St. Peter’s Basilica last October.

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17 Responses to Priests’ conference in Rome to feature Tridentine liturgies

  1. J Basil Damukaitis says:

    It is unfortunate that the Catholic media cannot get their terms correct. Common parlance had once called the “Old Mass” the “Tridentine Mass” which is inaccurate. The Council of Trent, like the 2nd Vatican Council did NOTHING with the liturgy. They were post-Conciliar reforms. The Council documents specify nothing regarding changes in the liturgy.

    The more correct term is the Extradordinary Form of the Roman Rite, or Missal of 1570, or Old Mass would be less academic, but more correct.

    C’mon! We expect as much with the secular media, but not our own!

  2. Richard says:

    Wow, that sounds like such an amazing, stimulating, engaging, life-giving and interesting conference. Even more of the church retreating from reality into some imaginary past. Goodonyah. Go knock yourselves out. No really.

  3. jjoy says:

    Wonderful news! Sounds like a great conference!

  4. paul says:

    This is not “retreating from reality”, the Holy See has decreed that the roman rite consists of 2 forms ordinary and extra-ordinary. You need to update yourself on the present day reality of the Catholic Church.

  5. paul says:

    My understanding is that the Roman rite consists of two forms- according to Pope Benedict XV1, the ordinary and the extra-ordinary. Both forms are wonderful and should be celebrated.

  6. Father Michael J. Newman, SDS says:

    The extraordinary rite can be beautiful… and there is room for it in the church… The sticking point is that Pope John Paul II decreed that those who attend must recognize the new mass and must accept the teachings of Vatican II. I know many who do not and it is being shuffled under the rug… Even those who “go by the book” as one says, manage to write a few extra chapters on their own.

  7. Patricia Cascio says:

    Thanks be to God!

  8. Thank you, Archbishop Burke, and Archbishop Di Noia, O.P.!

    One significant element of these events is that Archbishop Di Noia is Archbishop Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship (CDW), whose competency is not over the “Extraordinary Form” (that’s the domain of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei), but over the “Ordinary Form.” In a sense, the CDW’s involvement shows that the Classical Rite is “mainstream” in the eyes of the Holy See. It could also show that the CDW, which is quietly working on “the reform of the reform,” is doing so along the lines spelled out in the Classical Rite, that is, along the lines of tradition.

    The times, they are a changin’!

    Deo Gratias!

  9. Brian Nitkiewicz says:

    In the introductory paragraphs of the Second Vatican Council’s constitution on the Liturgy, the document outlines an orientation to the reforms stating that above all else they are meant to encourage the “full, active, and conscious participation” of the faithful. In the desire for unity with Rome and reverence, the push for Latin to return to the Liturgy seems to have replaced the clear and stated directive of the Council. I appreciate the accomodations being made for those who are alienated by the Council’s reform. Aside from that, I find use of Latin to be a major hindrance to prayer, especially at the time immediately preceding reception of the Eucharist.

  10. Michael James says:

    With all due respect, Vatican II was a pastoral council and did not call for an end to the Tridentine or Latin mass. It did not dictate that the entire mass be in the vernacular, or that it must be a verbal dialogue between the congregation and the priest. In fact, it mentioned preserving traditional forms of Catholic worship and allowing some active participation by the congregation. Active participation does not necessarily require verbal responses. It can be bowing, kneeling, making the sign of the cross, and other reverent gestures, along with praying silently with the priest.

    Let’s face it – the vagueness of some of the council’s documents have been greatly misused by people with agendas who interpret them to their liking. The council’s recommendations did not mention taking the tabernacle out of the center of the altar and placing it in an obscure area. It only mentioned it being put in an appropriate place. So many of our bishops have moved it from the center of our worship, and made our churches look like Protestant meeting houses. In fact, the reception of communion in the hand in 1969 originated with the disobedience of a Belgian bishop at that time. We consistently have seen respect diminish in our churches and the so-called reforms have not reaped good fruit. I think a return to the original Latin mass and true reverence for the Eucharist is long overdue.

  11. Vincent says:

    Here’s a “clear and stated directive of the Council” for Mr. Nitkiewicz:

    “The use of the Latin language is to be preserved in the Latin rites.”

    –Sacrosantum Concilium, Art. 54

    What the Council clearly intended was that full, conscious, actual (the true translation of “actuoso”) participation is to be carried out in the context of Latin worship.

  12. Bryan says:

    Vincent’s quote is from art. 36, not 54. Article 36 goes on to open the way to the use of the vernacular, though it does not impose the vernacular in an exclusive way. Both nos. 36 and 54 are pertinent:

    Sacrosanctum Concilium art. 36 says:
    1. Particular law remaining in force, the use of the Latin language is to be preserved in the Latin rites.

    2. But since the use of the mother tongue, whether in the Mass, the administration of the sacraments, or other parts of the liturgy, frequently may be of great advantage to the people, the limits of its employment may be extended. This will apply in the first place to the readings and directives, and to some of the prayers and chants, according to the regulations on this matter to be laid down separately in subsequent chapters….
    In Masses which are celebrated with the people, a suitable place may be allotted to their mother tongue. … Nevertheless steps should be taken so that the faithful may also be able to say or to sing together in Latin those parts of the Ordinary of the Mass which pertain to them. …

  13. TNCath says:

    Brian Nitkiewicz, please see the following address by Msgr. Marini for the correct interpretation of “full, active, and conscious participation.”

  14. Brian Nitkiewicz says:

    Msgr. Marini makes an excellent call for the return to adoration and a heart fixed on the worship of Christ. He mentions that “perhaps” a return to Latin and Gregorian would enhance this and I agree that on occasion this is appropriate. For years now our parish has adopted a return to Latin in the responses of the Mass. Although the Latin is beautiful, and perhaps theatrical, even after all these years it still hinders my ability to pray. I would be able to enter more fully into worship if we would keep as much as possible in English!

  15. Richard S. says:

    I don’t mean to be rude. But, with all the problems the Church faces, why are Catholic priests always walking around with that stupid smile on their faces? Normal people are just as happy with life but are not always flashing such a look. It becomes inappropriate to always be “on the make.”

  16. David Brady says:

    J Basil Damukaitis is of course correct as the Latin Rite was endorsed and upheld at the council of Trent and so should not be called the Tridentine Rite but as stated the`Extradordinary Form of the Roman Rite`

  17. The 1st International Conference of English Speaking Clergy sponsored by the Australian CCC and American CCC was a complete success. We enjoyed it so much, we voted to do it again every five years. Ongoing spiritual, theological and pastoral formation of priests and deacons in a fraternal setting is not an option, but a mandate of V2, the 1983 Code of Canon Law and the Directory on the Ministry and Life of Priests.

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