Liveblog: U.S. bishops’ Tuesday afternoon session (Part 2)

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Tuesday afternoon’s string was getting too long, so we’ve decided to start a new live string here, which begins after the bishops’ mid-afternoon coffee break.

6:45 p.m.: Final press conference is here.

6:23 p.m.: Results are announced that the bishops have approved both liturgical items discussed earlier this afternoon — the Mass translations and the Grail Psalter. Both now need approval by the Vatican before they can be implemented.

And as Cardinal George just said, this ends the public portion of this year’s fall general meeting.

6:17 p.m.: Some questions raised about the criteria and process for the CCHD funding and collection.

6:08 p.m.: He adds that auditors have found no connection between CCHD funding of local ACORN groups and the problems at the national ACORN office.

6:06 p.m.: He stresses that no funds are going to ACORN and that his subcommittee is formally ending any relationship to ACORN because of serious issues such as political partisanship and financial irregularities.

6:00 p.m.: Report now being given on relationship between Catholic Campaign for Human Development and ACORN by Bishop Morin.

5:45 p.m.: Each of the U.S. synod delegates — Cardinal George, Bishop Kicanas, Archbishop Wuerl, and Cardinal DiNardo — is giving a brief report on what the synod meant to them.

5:36 p.m.: Oral report, led by Cardinal George, now being given on last month’s world Synod of Bishops on Scripture. (You can read all about the synod here.)

5:33 p.m.: Goals and objectives done. Bishop Kicanas thanks the bishops for their input because this will lead to specific goals and objectives to be voted on one year from now.

5:23 p.m.: Bishop Kicanas, who is leading the discussion on goals and objectives, points out that they’re not listed in any order of importance. There had been some concern that cultural diversity was listed ahead of faith formation or vocations.

5:17 p.m.: Seems to be no objections to the goals and objectives, or maybe it’s just because it’s getting late in the day.

Archbishop Joseph F. Naumann of Kansas City, Kan., signals that he would like to address the meeting of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops in Baltimore Nov. 11. (CNS/Nancy Wiechec)

Archbishop Joseph F. Naumann of Kansas City, Kan., signals that he would like to address the meeting of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops in Baltimore Nov. 11. (CNS/Nancy Wiechec)

5:13 p.m.: I know I missed the debate on the Grail Psalter, but there’ll be more on that later. Now they’re on the long-term goals and objectives.

5:02 p.m.: Committee chairman election results announced. The new chairmen-elect are:

National Collections: Bishop Kevin J. Farrell of Dallas.

Cultural Diversity: Coadjutor Bishop Jaime Soto of Sacramento.

Doctrine: Archbishop Donald W. Wuerl of Washington.

Pro-Life Activities: Cardinal Daniel N. DiNardo of Galveston-Houston.

Communications: Auxiliary Bishop Gabino Zavala of Los Angeles.

4:59 p.m.: Paper ballots now being collected.

4:48 p.m.: More discussion of whether these prayers are too long and too hard to understand, even though they’re faithful to the original Latin. Bishop Galeone compares some of the prayers to music — a period is a full stop, a semicolon is a half stop. Should these prayers be poetic or faithful? But Bishop Serratelli, chairman of the liturgy committee, defends the translations, saying they are faithful but not slavish to the Latin. No translation will meet the personal preference of everyone who hears it, he says.

4:45 p.m.: Bishop Braxton warns that some priests and laity have already said they won’t use these translations, so efforts must be made to educate our people.

4:35 p.m.: Ineffable stays. So now they’re working toward a final vote. But this too will be a paper ballot, so results won’t be available right away.

4:29 p.m.: What about the word “ineffable”? Some bishops think people won’t know what it means, but others think liturgical words can rise above ordinary conversation and be worshipful and sacred.

4:21 p.m.: For instance, the dispute now is over how to properly translate a Mass prayer from the original Latin.

4:17 p.m.: This is going to get tedious for the ordinary Catholic, but liturgical issues always take time. And these are the prayers that were rejected at the last meeting.

4:11 p.m.: Here we go. First up, Mass translations.

4:10 p.m.: Cardinal George wanted to resume at 4, but they’re already running late.

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